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    Public opinion sought on Lokpal, Team Anna terms it diversion

    New Delhi, Aug 20 (IANS) As Anna Hazare continued his protest fast against the government's Lokpal bill, the chairman of a parliamentary standing committee examining the bill Saturday said the panel was not closed to any proposals, including those from the Jan Lokpal bill. Team Anna, however, dismissed it as an attention-diverting tactic.

    Congress MP Abhishek Manu Singhvi, chairman of the parliamentary standing committee on personnel, public grievances, and law and justice told reporters here that the committee was open to all suggestions, but the processes need to be followed.

    Asked if the standing committee will consider the provisions in team Anna's Jan Lokpal bill, Singhvi said: 'I want to make it clear a second, third and fourth time. Every possible process, input, draft, suggestion, result, consequence is completely open.'

    'We are at the beginning, not at the end of the process. No one should have the slightest doubt or agitation or any prejudgement on any issue,' he said.

    The standing committee Saturday invited public suggestions on the Lokpal Bill, publishing advertisements in leading newspapers, seeking ideas and suggestions on the bill.

    'The committee has decided to invite memoranda containing views/suggestions from individuals, organisations interested in the subject matter of the bill and also hear select oral evidence on the subject matter of the bill,' the advertisement said.

    A time limit of 15 days starting Saturday has been given to send suggestions.

    'We already had a very positive detailed discussion with the civil society. We have now invited views of diverse stakeholders. It would be followed by witness hearing and then clause by clause we see the bill and take all ideal elements from these proposals, the Lokpal or Jan Lokpal, and try to make the strongest bill according to our understanding,' Singhhvi said.

    The step is being seen as an attempt to counter the protesting activists who have claimed that public opinion is against the Lokpal Bill introduced by the government.

    Team Anna, however, rejected the initiative.

    'As far as calling the feedback is concerned, it is not a referendum also. If the government does any referendum, the government bill will be totally trashed by the people. This is simply diverting attention,' activist Arvind Kejriwal told IANS.

    The civil society representatives have urged the parliamentary standing committee to reject the bill.

    'We requested the standing committee to completely reject the bill and send it back to the government because there is no time for the standing committee and parliament to waste their precious time in discussing a totally wrong bill,' he said.

    Singhvi, however, refused to react to Kejriwal's statement, saying: 'I will not comment on any one's comment. We are following a procedure which is the foundation stone of parliamentary system.'

    He, however, rejected Team Anna's comment that the bill could be tabled by end of August if the government wanted.

    'All I can say is let us be very clear, the detailed procedure I just outlined to you, invitation of views, meeting with diverse stakeholders, collecting evidence, doing a clause by clause analysis, then giving a detailed report and recommendations (if it) is done by August 30, you will laugh at us and accuse the committee of not applying its mind,' he said.

     

    230 comments

    • vip  •  9 months ago
      Dear Anna We are with u in any way we can be.
    • vip  •  9 months ago
      If Jan lok pal bill is passed Indian can become the richest country in the world.All political leaders are getting their Bread from the public they should remember that.they are not happy with their bread which they are getting they want chikkin tanduri,kaju,Badam in all the meals they dont care if some body dies.Anna is not Just somebody he is the voice of all the indians & all the political leaders should rember that & they have not purchased india or not given to them on contract bases & there are election every 5 years.
      As Goverment stop playing cat & mouse game.
    • Knight .rider999  •  9 months ago
      lokpal ka dayra to theek hai....patwari se lekar primminister tak....cbi se lekar peon suprem court tak tak....koi bhi bach nahi sakta...lokpal se..sirf president of india ko chhorkar.......sab lokpal ke under me .....lekin..lokpal kiske under hoga????? uski jawabdehi...........??????????????
    • munaga  •  9 months ago
      I don't have second opinion than to follow the mass in extension of my solidarity to OUR 'Annaji' the Ex-soldier. But please let me know how many, sincerly and honestly, know the actual meaning of 'against the corruption' and let me know whether you 'never indulged' in corruptive activities? from office pin to stationary/paper/ late coming/early going/skiping of work etc., etc., and most importantly and blantaly I am posing a Question that let us know how many does not know your PARENTS anticidents free from corruptive activities. I hope 99% the so called young, youth, girls, women, does know their parents, husbands, wives, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, in-laws etc., if we are able to correct these unmean ways of earnings within our household, there is no need the Anna should come in the streets and dislodge and unrest of public. pl keep in mind that first reform yourself and then come to streets or public. my full support to our fellow Ex-Soldier, who never voiced against the atrocities committing against the 1.3 million Ex-Solders and 25 laks veer naris and theri families being he belongs to our Ex-Servicemen community. JAI HIND, LONG LIVE ANNA.
      • rajorshi 9 months ago
        Mr.Munaga
        Though you sound righteous, you are questioning each and very one coming to this comment section about his/her or his/her nearest relatives' moral integrity against corruption. Also, you are trying to blame a person whose dad might have indulged in corruption. This is grossly immature gesture. What you are trying to preach is "Charity Begins at Home." What if someone's home is clean of corruption or he himself is free of corruption but has been a victim of corruption? What is your answer to them? To whom are the elected representatives of people like Raja and Kalmadi answerable for swindling our hard-earned money in the form of tax? Loss of Rationality bring forth unrest. People who indulges in corruption are not rational and hence we have this unrest.
      • Satya Vachan 9 months ago
        Mr. Munaga
        chalo maan liya ki aap jo keh rahe hai woh sahi hai.. ki kabhi na kabhi humne bribe di hai ya li hai... lekin , isska matlab yeh thode hi hota hai ki hum sudharna chahe aur hume sudharne ka mauka bhi na mile.. Agar, main Janlokpal bill ko support kar ke apne paap dhona chahta hu toh kya main galat hu ? Please do reply...
      • Mind Bender 9 months ago
        Mr Munaga

        i think u have some rivalery with Anna ji Since many years because of which u are taunting on his moves and his actions. this is ridiculous.
    • Rakesh K  •  9 months ago
      I exactly don't knw the bill which is in hands of the civil society will completely wash out the corruption made till now. I only need the transparency in the work life of every office and ticketing system should be followed every were. If the person not stick to this system and violate this system must be thrown out and replacement must be done or must be kept in the standby mode for immediate replacements for any post. And lastly Anna Hazare ji need the whole system must be changed then please remove the "Reservation System" which is the main lead for the corruption. The corruption starts from giving bribe for the for the jobs which is with the very limited seats for the jobs or schools they will give bribe for getting into the system and this will lead for the cycle of the corruption events in his life to get the money which he gave as bribe for his job and it becomes the habit for him/her to take the bribe in any way.. Please remove the Reservation and give a fair opportunity for the knowledge people to run the institution and the country.. One can not write his destiny by his birth in some caste or in some family.
      • rags 9 months ago
        hi rakesh u r article is good but in India everybody has right to live equally, since independence and much earlier in india there are more than 80% people are downtrodden illiterate they dont even have minimum basic amenities to live a normal life they are very innocent so it is our duty to uplift our own people. so reservation is must in larger interest of our country development but this is not happening, the problem is SC &ST community people who have got the top most jobs through Reservation like IAS,IPS and other important jobs they should surrender their reservations. but it is not happening the creamy layers in SC & ST are continuously enjoying the power and restricting their own caste people from prosper, this is where again country is at standstill. i am not an reservation candidate.
      • A Yahoo! User 9 months ago
        hi rakesh,
        One of the most logical comments here. Love your reply too Rags. If Mr Hazare wants to become the PM why is he not upfront with it?
        I think Congress should resign and not contest elections . Lets see how things change in the next 5 years. If congress and UPA is responsible for everything let us give them a break and remove corruption in 5 years.

        There could be more than what meets the eye , we are getting carried away with the euphoria.
      • Beena 9 months ago
        Yes U r absolutely right Mr. Rakesh ji.There should be remove reservation system & should give to priority to the Knowledge.And other thing i want to say to Mr. Rags that U r saying & Favoring Reservation system but now the position is changed.we give reservation to backward class of people but what the need who are belong from backward class but not poor & capable to make well educate to their children & yet we are providing them Scholarship & Job priority? There is no poor people in Open Category class of People?I have seen many of people who belong under reservation system & their parents are on high post & yet getting Scholarships & wasting on their lavish hobbies instead of education so reservation must be to the poor class of people not by the cast.& many people who belong from open category don't have enough money to get good education.so in initial year of our independence the reservation system was good & needed but now there must me Major Changes are required.
    • hen  •  9 months ago
      If Anna has his say thinking that it should be followed by word and letter how about others who have been fighting tooth and nail against corruption since independence. This man should understand that he is the only man in India. We too need to be heard. If this man is against government's proposal to hear public opinion then he is against the rest of the Indians. Let this man not be a stumbling block to slow down the progress of the country. We need to improve on every field and corruption is just one of them. We cannot just give importance to this man who needs to be exposed to the youngsters. Jan Lokpal or whatever it is, all people should be heard before it is passed by the Parliament. We just don't know what is in the bill of Anna, Kiran Bedi and others. Let him explain it to the public and be questioned to clarify the doubts of people.
      • A Yahoo! User 9 months ago
        I agree partly with what you said, but the important thing to understand is its not practical to hear the the opinion of 1.2billion people, I am sure a majority of us want a strong anti corruption bill, and when a person with a credible past who has dona a lot of social work has started a movement for an anti corruption bill its only fair that we support him,
      • rajorshi 9 months ago
        @Pathos Logos
        Very well said.

        @Hen
        Others who have been fighting corruption since Independence cannot have very divergent view with others who are fighting for the same, so why not they unite. If anyone who have a proven track record of fighting corruption since independence, and have problem with the current provisions of Jan LokPal Bill , why not put it up with the facts in an open forum ,so that everybody are also enlightened about those drawbacks.
      • hhb92 9 months ago
        there are always 'buts' and if's attached to everything...
        it always easy to get lost in translation...so pls get out of if's and buts and do something for real without any further delay...
        it doesnt matter if Jan lok pal bill serves up the cause or not ...what matters that whole nation has become united to fight corruption which is a strong msg to govt N WONT HAPPEN AGAIN IF ITS PASSED NOT THIS TIME..
        PEOPLE QUESTIONING WOT IF CIVIL SOCIETY BECOMES CORRUPT THEN WHAT ??
        MY ANSWER : WE WILL UNITE ONCE AGAIN TILL WE WIN THIS WAR AGAINST CORRUPTION BUT 1ST VICTORY IS VERY IMP AT THE MOMENT SO LETS CONCENTRATE WHATS OUT THERE NOT WHAT HASNT HAPPENED
    • Sajal  •  9 months ago
      Anna has shown , it is not the age, but courage and cause which is required to bring about change. we are suffering from womb to tomb because of widespread corruption. our parliament and parliamentarians failed to rescue us from the clutches of corruption. we felt destitute. now here we got someone who stood for our salvation. he is above of all religion, caste , creed and other narrow prejudices.
      Rahul gandhi, on whom the nation had some hope, failed to deliver. we dont want to see him as future PM. there are far more educated and qualified people in India. Merit shd b the parameter, not family influence for the post of PM. why he is silent now?probably he thought not to comment on India's internal affair.
    • Bindu  •  9 months ago
      FOR Indian corruption, every Indian citzen is responsibly, this practise we are given to Policitians
      BMC, Sales tax, Income tax, etc.. every Governments instituions, You want do move your files
      one section to other section, we are giving black money to ZY officer it comes to croes for big
      sanctions, stop balck money giving for ?. Automatically corruption will come done.
    • Priya  •  9 months ago
      Annaa ji now our government is in pressure to clear the lookpal bill, we need a strong lokpal, we are requesting you not to be rigid for only jan lokpal,
    • Satendra Pal  •  9 months ago
      It seems that everyone looking for their benefit in this gambit & making statements which are not relevant, just paying games. Moreover I feel that no one is serious about cleaning the country from corruption and alleging the person (group of persons) those are fighting for right bill.
      What is the problem of Govt. to form the right bill which will be really effective in terms of controlling corruption & which would make every decision maker accountable.

      It is surprise that our parliament can waste time & energy on a matter which will yield no use to our society. As per past history we found that the most of the bills which parliament have passed have lot of loop holes and therefore are not as effective as it would have been. Janlokpal bill have been seriously studied by the civil societies members and therefore I believe it would really be effective and accountable and it should be accepted as it. If in later stage we found some amendment in the bill is needed then same can be incorporated. The Govt. can put their words through amendments what is the problem. This is a case of EGO I feel.
    • Nazeer.  •  9 months ago
      The Lokpal bill will not run successfully without clean hand drivers,for that Mr.Anna like people should come forward with their team and participate in the elections.At any cost they should not give seats to privious political men and also they have to avoid supports at any forms from the political parties.The team should be avoid caste related persons.We support u Mr.Anna let we start to buit the Nation strong.JAI HIND...
    • Suresh  •  9 months ago
      US is blackmailing INDIAN politicians. US wants all the BLACK MONEY that is stashed abroad by Indian Politicians and Businessmen to be returned back to Indian Public, because it is public money. Otherwise US is going to make public all the black money and the corresponding politicians/businessmen (thousands of them). The amount is certainly more than Dollar 1000 or 2000 billion. So all Indians expect that very soon the names and amount will be made public.
    • raju  •  9 months ago
      This lokpalbill is pending for 42 years to be passed in parliament is a direct proof that it is not in interest of corrupt MPs.
    • Papsa Rajput  •  9 months ago
      anna tusi garet ho tohpa kabul karo

      all is well
    • R.K  •  9 months ago
      What rubbish is that now the government is seeking another four months of time to draft the Jan lokpal bill once again. Then what the govt. had been doing in the meetings of the joint drafting comity which was formed by the govt. after the Anna's earlier fast in the month of April (not sure about the month of Anna's last fast) this year.
      Now the govt. wants to go 4-5 months back and repeat the same rubbish story again and again? As Mr. Prashant Bhushan and Mr. Kejriwal keep on saying that the bill has been tabled before the parliament some 8 times and the govt. still wish to continue forming the comity-comity-comity-comity-comity and so on?
    • Ajit  •  9 months ago
      It seems many of us are making noise just to hear their own voice and feel important. The main issues are; the jurisdiction of the Lok Pal; the way the Bill will be used effectively implemented. In today's society the worst offenders are the departments meant for enforcement of the Law. Simple example; here in my town the traffic policeman gossip with the auto drivers and they are very lenient to wards them even when the auto drivers break each and every traffic rule in the book. The police show this kindness because the drivers give them free rides from home and back. Similarly I can show living examples from grass root level to the top most position; Will the Lok Pal Bill (or the Jana Lok Pal Bill) bring about a change for the better, where all members of the society will act responsible and build a corruption free Nation?
    • Lalbabu  •  9 months ago
      ANNA JI ,go ahead.all indian people with u. democracy has murdered (killed) by sonia gandhi,rahul gandhi,manmoha singh,kapil sibbal,parnav mukhargi and p chidambram.where is next generation PM and his broker digvijay singh &manish kumar ?dummy movmentam is old style of congress to handle revolution of public.congress gov is taking last breathig of 5yrs session.requesting to all indian people avoid voting to congress .this gov have for the currupt people by the currut businessmen.
    • gaurav  •  9 months ago
      Agar Anna ko kuch hota hai... toh mantri sansad jaan jao ki tumhara kya hoga....
    • Francis KV  •  9 months ago
      I found that so many people working with Income tax departments are totally corrupt.
    • Amit  •  9 months ago
      Come out n join Anna Hazare Anshan.I m with Anna.Are u??????????????????????
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