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    "Bring back the entry load" seems to be the cry among distributors and advisors of mutual funds, as the new chairman of SEBI, U.K.Sinha, appoints committees to look into various aspects of the regulator's functioning. Mr. Sinha was the head of UTI Mutual Fund earlier, where he had complained about the SEBI move to remove entry loads altogether in 2009 — the intermediary community now desires that he reverse the earlier SEBI decision.

    First, what do I mean when I say "distributor" or "advisor" or "intermediary"? For the most part, they mean the person or company that sits between you and the actual mutual fund. They all perform the exact same function — filling out a few forms, collecting and filing certain documents. Some of them actually go the whole yard and provide advice. For this, they would earlier get a commission out of your investment — so if you put in 100,000, a 2.25% entry load would give them Rs. 2,250, and what was invested was the rest — Rs.97,750.

    SEBI's view was that you can't be paid a big percentage for just filling out forms, and if some of these people were actually providing advice, they should charge the investor separately for it. Like you pay a doctor's fee for advice and pay a pharmacist for the medicines, the idea was to separate the product from the advice. Now there was no lower bound on entry loads earlier, so mutual funds could have "self-regulated" themselves and made entry loads zero; they did try in spurts, with some funds making systematic-investing-plans (SIPs) load free for a while, and others keeping certain funds with high loads and others with low. But after 2005, the load situation set itself up at the upper bound of 2.25% from nearly all equity funds.

    With banks and large companies setting up operations, the competition in the middleman space was intense — to the extent that they would tell investors that they would "share" the commissions received as part of the entry load to attract their money. This is like giving you part of your own money back, but in a field where the rest take that part anyhow, it seems like an advantage.

    This became is a cartelized operation, even without the presence of an actual cartel - the industry behaves as one because they all believe it's in their interest to do so. In such an event only regulatory influences can change behavior, and the removal of an entry load altogether was a great move. Yet, market players complain today that it was "too sudden", they should have been given time, distributors lost big chunks of income, that funds lost a lot of investors.

    But I pooh-pooh that argument. If distributors were paid 2.25% earlier, they are paid 0.5% to 1% today. Upfront. How? Since fund managers would take about 2% of the fund as an annual management fee (in part over the entire year), they were happy to part with some of it upfront to the distributor. What then, you might ask, if someone put in a large chunk and withdrew it immediately? Answer: Exit loads. Mutual funds started charging a sum if you withdrew too early, and in line with the commissions such loads are about 1%.

    Additionally, distributors are paid 0.5% as a "trailing" load, every year. The total payment to a distributor over the year is now over 1% for most equity funds.  This money is paid by the fund management company as part of the fees they charge you (deducted from NAV every day).

    Payments have moved from about 3% earlier, to about 1% now. So distributors do get paid, it's just a little bit lesser. And that was on the cards. Worldwide, hedge funds charge 2% of investments as management fees, mutual funds charge about the same. This money is used for research, to set up trading infrastructure, to pay top-quality fund managers and so on. Why should a distributor — whose job is plainly to transport a filled form and a cheque from an investor to the fund house, get just as much? And then get paid every year for doing nothing?

    For advice, they should charge the investor directly — and many entities have started to do that, from individuals to large companies. The concept of paying for advice separately will sink in, and like every disruptive change, it will hurt existing players first, who have no infrastructure for providing advice, and whose customers don't understand the concept of paying separately. The immediate reaction is, and should be, to deny these customers service unless they pay — the smart customer will do his own research and buy from a mutual fund directly (most already provide online and direct access), and the rest will learn to pay. This will take time, but this is how a flawed business model needs to be fixed.

    The distributors answer goes like this: "Listen, if you don't give me commissions, I will go sell insurance, where they give me 5-20%, okay?" And they did. For about a year, the mis-selling in Insurance policies went up until the big SEBI-IRDA spat happened, and IRDA decided to clamp down on commission structures at ULIPs. Still, insurance policy commissions are very high and in comparison with a mutual fund, they have proved to be horrible investments. The mis-selling only lasts so long and as investors realize that their investments haven't quite done spectacularly, they stop putting money in.

    And finally, the aspect of losing investors in the last two years: In case no one has noticed, nearly all kinds of equity assets have lost customers in the last few years, including Portfolio Managers and Stock Brokers. Investors have pulled out of equity markets directly as well — figures on the NSE show us that we are below turnover levels of May 2007, four years ago. Turnover in single Stock futures, which were what retail investors loved, have gone down to a desperate 8,000 cr. on Tuesday (figures in 2007 were above 20,000 crores a day). With banks offering 10% returns on FDs, investors are flocking to them instead of equity funds, and with increasing interest rates, that migration will only go up.

    And in this time — the last two years — equity funds have seen inflows return as markets went up (end-2010) and then some exits as markets fell. This is not abnormal. Markets fall because of selling pressure, and an exit from an equity mutual fund is just another form of selling pressure. The fact that mutual funds have lost some customer money to withdrawals has more to do with market dynamics than a drop in loads.

    One method that advisors suggest, because investors don't like to give multiple cheques, is to have those investors write down that "[N]% of my money should be paid as a commission". But given the glorious track record of advisors in mis-selling, and the dubious record of investors in actually seeing what they sign, this would be equivalent to feeding investors to the vultures. And if getting an additional signature is fine, why not get it on a cheque instead?

    The demand to reinstate entry loads for mutual funds is on shaky ground. Mr. Sinha has already stated that he won't reverse the policy, and instead concentrate on what makes funds more investor friendly. Mutual funds have been phenomenal vehicles for investing — unlike the west, most of our top funds have consistently beaten our stock indices, delivered healthy returns, and kept costs very low. It would be useful to highlight that, instead of reinstating retrograde incentives for intermediaries who are getting increasingly irrelevant anyway.

    Deepak Shenoy is co-founder at MarketVision, a financial education site and writes at Capital Mind. You can reach him at deepakshenoy@gmail.com or @deepakshenoy.

     

    13 comments

    • rajeev  •  1 year 0 months ago
      I beg to differ...Yes I do agree the financial adviser need to be paid for their services...but what is the authenticity/credibility of these so called FINANCIAL ADVISERS. I have been investing in mutual funds for last ten years and I have never came across a single adviser who is honest in his approach. Whenever I took the help of a financial adviser...I had to realize later that I was given wrong or incomplete information. An adviser??? is more interested in duping a gullible investor to invest in a particular fund which he wants to promote irrespective of its merits.
      I also cant understand that if an investor invest through SIP route in a mutual fund why the financial adviser get a cut from his investment month by month until the SIP continues and that to the same amount without any reduction. The adviser is rendering his service for the only once and if anything has to be paid it must be for only once and not for the entire period of the investment.
      I just hope that Mr Sinha, while taking his decision, will take into consideration an ordinary investor and will not start the entry load again.
      • Ankur 1 year 0 months ago
        Have you tried to take advice from an independent CFP certificant Financial Adviser. Pls ensure the Adviser is Fee Only, means only charge fees and not commision of any kind.
      • GirishT 1 year 0 months ago
        I also cant understand that if an investor invest through SIP route in a mutual fund why the financial adviser get a cut from his investment month by month until the SIP continues
        ANS. if you have started sip of 1000/- inr then for that adviser have to fill up your KYC form free of charge ( same like pan card which are chargable )your form form is to submmited and acknowledgement delivery and follow up in future.As per 0.50% he will get 5/- for all work as per your advice (.i had not considered the advisory work for time being ) and if you are ready for all such work for 5/-rs it will be great for all investors we will be happy to get your services.
    • shrinivas  •  1 year 0 months ago
      I am completely agreed with Mr.Sandip. I think Mr. Shenoy is not aware about the kind of service Mutual Fund Advisor provides to its clients. Most of the AMCs can not provide personalised service to MF investors. How many people in India have complete knowledge of Mutual Funds? Hardly 5 to 10%. To provide complete knowledge to its clients, MF Advisor's have to spend considerable time as well as used latest technology and resources. They also have to upgrade their knowledge regularly and also follow all the instructions / regulations /norms of AMFI as well as SEBI. With shrinking margin from 3% to 1% and also due to rising inflation and manpower cost requirements most MFs advisor's are discontinuing Mutual Fund Business. Mutual Funds which have potential to fulfill all financial needs of common man and also contribute for the steady growth of economy, will grow at significantly slower rate in coming future. If we really need to increase retail equity participation and wants to include every tier - 2 and tier -3 cities we need to promote distribution incentive, like insurance deed and because of that AUM of insurance companies have increased significantly as compare to growth in AUM of MF. It is proved that ULIP is a horrible investment avenue still its marketed well and gained tremendous amount of money. ONLY REASON IS DISTRIBUTION INCENTIVE AND CUSTOMER REACH. I would have welcome SEBIi's move but if it would have been taken after good amount of penetration. The job of actual penetration is done ONLY BY MF ADVISOR and not by AMC promotion. SEBIs decision was shocking and too early.
      • Ankur 1 year 0 months ago
        Start charging fees for your services and not commissions.
      • GirishT 1 year 0 months ago
        good covering
    • Sharath  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Most of the miselling will reduce the minute the bankers are banned from selling financial instruments. There are instance where families have benefited from financial advisers but I know of none that have benefited by taking advice from bankers.
    • Chander  •  1 year 0 months ago
      It would have been good for SEBI to ask the AMCs to take a survey from its investors as to their opinion about Distributor/Advisory services and the fees/entry loads paid to them for the same. That could have been some interesting information to base their decision on.
    • veegee  •  1 year 0 months ago
      thanks for raising an important discussion.i am a senior citizen living in a metro city.i find it difficult to comprehend many a intricate nuances in all investment proposals. as there is no option i have to trust an intermediary. this ie the case with many a investors viz sr. citizens.we did not mind paying some entry load when we tried to understand the investment proposals.true entry load was a bit on higher side but could get services from the intermediary.withdrawal has certainly limited the saving/ investment options.in that case how can one justify the hefty premium on i p os -equity when the project itself is based on estimates and propped by the credit raters?
    • Asok  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Advisors should be paid a fee for their service.But it should not be mandatory.An Investor who has sufficient knowledge to choose a prduct and can perform all transaction himself,should enjoy loadfree era.I had personal experience that many advisors choose a fund with poor track record and advice their client for frequent "in and out,timing the market",because both will give them incentive practically exploiting their clients.Some advisors have practically very poor quality of product knowledge.Both WITHLOAD and LOADFREE structure should be there to acknowledge a KNOWLEDGABLE INVESTOR and at the same time to help an Investor with poor financial knowledge.
      DR ASOK KUMAR PARYA
      TAMLUK;WB
    • ssvasan  •  1 year 0 months ago
      As an Indian investor I have second thoughts of giving a second cheque for the advice rendered by my advisor. I liked the system of advisor fee being deducted and given to the advisor directly by the Mutual Fund. I will welcome a system where as an investor I have a facility to pay a lesser fee depending upon the quality of advice I receive from my advisor. This fee % can be discussed between me and the advisor. I am aware that the penetration of mutual fund investment is quite low in a country like ours but it is great tool and we should not allow it to have a premature death.
    • Aniruddha  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Very well put.

      I think Mr. Sinha will bring back "entry load" in some form and, if he does, I will invest directly through AMC. And if even that route has entry load, I will stop investing in mutual funds and explore alternate avenues.
    • JACOBS  •  1 year 0 months ago
      excuse me mr. shenoy , we r living in India and not ENGLAND. hardly 30% invested directly and 70% investors got an idea abt MF through advisors only. our markets need more domestic participation otherwise FII will control our market .nearly 25000 distributers are active up to 2009 and now nearly 10000 distributers active for 100 crore people.
    • Keerthi  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Yes, no one can work for charity,Advisers have to spend their valuable time and give best suggestions and after investment also there is lot of service to be provide to the investors.By considering the load on investment to be introduced and commissions has to pay to the Advisers.
    • Mitesh  •  1 year 0 months ago
      A very good article, which almost says everything about the current mindset of investors, distributors & regulators. But the million dollar question is, "What Next", will IRDA cut down the commissions, will equity market show more turmoil, will investor's trust be re-gained ?

      As compared to developed countries, we face many problems in developing this investor friendly model.

      If we think from the investor point of view, below points should be considered,

      1. Language Barrier - more then 15 languages are spoken, read & written in India, compared to which Majority of the forms are printed & filled in only English, which again majority of the investor's sign on the trust of the Distributor.

      2. Lack of Knowledge - Very few investors keep themselves updated of the financial matters, others always make choice given by the distributors or go with advice from friends, relatives or colleagues.

      3. Blame Game - If an investment gives good return the credit goes to company, market or sometimes to the FUND MANAGER. Of course it should go but if something goes wrong, the only person who has to answer all the questions is the distributor which is also blamed for the wrong choice selected.

      As the regulator says, it would takes time to change, yes it would & so they should think even about more the 5 lakh distributors who represent on behalf of the companies.

      Meantime, companies should make some investor friendly changes like,

      Uniform format of the application forms, so it's easy for investors to understand & fill them.
    • BG  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Completely agree with Mr. Shenoy. Probably the AMCs should pool together the 0.5% and set up investor facilitation cells in all cities who will help educating investors and provide them correct guidance regarding investment in Mutual Funds. Furthermore, ULIPs should be banned unless they bring down the charges to the level of Mutual Funds.

      However, can we control greed among the MFs?
      • Krishna 1 year 0 months ago
        I agree with BG.

        There is no raison detre for ULIPs except furthering the interests of the insurance companies at the cost of the gullible individuals.
    • Sandip  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Before implementing such a hard step we need to thingk distribution model in india is different from any developed economy, where education about financial product is much higher, if we really need to increase retail equity participation and wants to include every tier -ii and tier -3 cities we need to promote distribution incentive,like insurance deed and bcz of thant AUM of insruance companies ve increased significantly as compare to growth in AUM of MF. It is proved that ULIP is a horrible investment evenue still its marketed well and gained troumendous amount of money. ONLY REASON IS DISTRIBUTION INCENTIVE AND CUSTOMER REACH. I would have welcome sebi's move but if it wld have been taken after good amount of penitration. this was too early.

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